"You've got to have clips of him saying it" - Destiny warns Trainwreckstv about calling out and criticizing Ludwig

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On April 13, 2023, political commentator Steven "Destiny" teamed up with Kick content creator Tyler "Trainwreckstv." One of the subjects that the streamers discussed was the recent controversy involving Twitch and YouTube personalities accepting sponsorship from the adult platform, Fansly. The conversation began when Trainwrecks urged Destiny to watch a snippet from Ludwig's Mogul Mail video in which the latter addressed the debacle.

One of the points he made was that his content is not aimed at children because he gambles, drinks, and swears a lot. Trainwreckstv claimed that Ludwig and the "other three groups of friends" criticized him for sharing views along similar lines. When Destiny heard this, he interrupted the Iranian-American personality and warned him not to call out the YouTuber without presenting substantial evidence:

As Destiny's YouTube livestream came to a close, Trainwreckstv asked if he had seen a viral video in which Ludwig made a remark about "kids that are imaginary." In a Mogul Mail video titled, I got in trouble. Again, the Los Angeles-based personality was heard saying:

Ludwig continued further, stating:

Timestamp: 07:25

After Destiny watched the clip, Trainwreckstv remarked:

Tyler was interrupted by the indefinitely banned Twitch personality, who warned him not to make accusatory statements against Ludwig without giving evidence. Trainwreckstv responded by saying that he was in a "twilight zone":

Destiny concurred with the gambling streamer's comments and added:

Timestamp: 03:54:35

The content creators' conversation was shared on the r/LivestreamFail subreddit. Here's a snapshot of some relevant reactions:

Destiny is a well-known streaming personality, best known for hosting Just Chatting content. He