Where Messmer The Impaler Fits Into Elden Ring’s Family Tree

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makes the already convoluted family tree of the gods and demigods even more confusing with the addition of Messmer, and the confirmation that Melina is also among Marika's children. However, the only pieces of information that are concrete are that Messmer and Melina are Marika's children, but the amount of missing details means that it's difficult to place their births in the game's timeline. As such, players have been analyzing the available information and the aesthetics of each character to find answers to the questions raised by the DLC.

It turns out that the question of when Messmer was born isn't the only mystery left unanswered in. The identity of his father is also unclear, but several theories have popped up, and all seem equally plausible considering the scarce evidence to support any single option. Given that Messmer seems to have two curses – his flames and the serpent – he's unique even among the demigod children. However, some theories suggest that the flames are a result of his parentage rather than a direct curse. But that's only one of many theories that revolve around Messmer, and it's time to take a closer look at each one.

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This is not only the most popular theory, it might also have the most evidence to support it, as little as that still is. It relies on Radagon being the lord needed to help Marika ascend to godhood the way that Radahn was needed for Miquella. Then, the suggestion is that Marika and Radagon had Messmer and Melina before she was with Godfrey, placing them first in the demigod birth order. Overall, this theory lines up fairly well with the timeline, especially when it's mentioned that Radahn saw Messmer as an older brother, so it's at least known that Messmer is older than Radahn.

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